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Scott Francis Baker


October 14th, 2001

From the "What the fuck are we smoking" department @ 08:25 pm

Ok maybe I'm missing something but this seems pretty damn reasonable to me. So why would the Government reject it so quickly!?! They don't want a simple solution! War is power, and money. Wouldn't want to be sensible!




Taliban renews, U.S. rejects bin Laden offer

SUMMARY:

U.S. warplanes pounded Afghanistan's southern city of Kandahar on Sunday, a day after the ruling Taliban's spiritual leader rejected another call to turn over suspected terrorist leader Osama bin Laden.

The Taliban made an offer of their own Sunday, saying they would be willing to discuss giving bin Laden to a third country for trial if the United States ended its attacks and provided evidence of bin Laden's involvement in the September 11 attacks on New York and Washington.

The White House quickly rejected the offer, and President Bush said the U.S. position was "non-negotiable."
 
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From:muerte
Date:October 15th, 2001 08:55 am (UTC)
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This whole thing just REEKS!
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From:jnala
Date:October 15th, 2001 05:13 pm (UTC)
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There are few remaining targets which threaten allied air superiority, which was the first objective of the campaign. That's very different from there being no targets in general.

The Taliban haven't made any offers to turn over bin Ladin. They've offered to talk about turning him over to someone of their choice, while also loudly proclaiming that they have removed any restrictions on his freedom of movement or communication, thus making it clear that they are not even considering following through on that.
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From:jnala
Date:October 15th, 2001 05:10 pm (UTC)
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Because it's a meaningless offer. The Taliban states that they have seen no evidence that bin Ladin is involved in *any* terrorism, despite massive evidence of involvement in previous incidents, not the least of which is his own statements claiming credit for the attacks. The only effect of providing them with evidence would be to provide them with information on what we do and don't know, valuable intelligence which would promptly be turned over to bin Ladin and al-Qaeda and used against us in further attacks. It makes absolutely no sense to try to deal with these people.

Also, look at the offer. If we stop bombing, and give them all of our intelligence, then they'll discuss sending bin Ladin to another country for trial. Unspoken: a) They make no promises of taking any action or in fact of being able to take action. b) The "other country" will be of their choice. c) The "trial" will be in a court of Islamic law, where a suitably-chosen cleric may perfectly well decide that killing 6000 Americans is a legal act of Jihad to drive the infidels from the land of the two holy places.

It would be insane to consider this "offer".
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From:jnala
Date:October 18th, 2001 02:23 am (UTC)
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In Kandahar, Taliban Foreign Minister Wakil Ahmed Muttawakil told CNN there is no split in the Taliban leadership, following recent reports that moderates in the Taliban government -- led by Muttawakil -- had offered to negotiate the surrender of Osama bin Laden if the United States would halt its bombing campaign.

Muttawakil said reports of a split were false. He said that he was not the equal of Mullah Mohammed Omar, the Taliban supreme leader, and would never presume to challenge him, adding the rumors were being spread by the Taliban's enemies.


Scott Francis Baker